Masterpiece vesti

Ironyhide wrote:Ali zabavno je da posle silnih očekivanja i pitanja ko li će biti MP 25 - gde se čak i novi mold Megatrona onoliko spominjao - ispadne da je odgovor jebeni Treks:) Skupljanje svih S1 likova biće, dakle, hobi koji se prenosi s kolena na koleno.

Međutim, Ajronhajd... što znači odmah potom i Rečet... e to je milina jedna. Samo, kad, to je neki decembar:(

I zar se nije šuškalo da će ovo biti godina MP Deseptikona?

kaznove wrote:Zapalili smo se jer se pojavio chug u srbiji i jos za relativno male pare isto kao i jazz...

U skali ce biti to je sigurno.

Za 2 godine dolaze novi BW kolekcionari, ovi g1 ce biti prestari, taman tajming

Aerialbot wrote:Aj sad pa najbolje da postoje tj da su bitni samo likovi sa RTS-a

Sta sad hocete,sve bitne likove odma pa posle manje bitne,ili da nam izbace sve Chugove koje fale ove godine i MP-ove sve za 1-2 godine i sta onda , sta ce da prodaju posle kolekcionarima , salvete i olovke

I to jos sve da bude u skali i perfektno , pa ni trtovi nisu svi u skali niti ce biti

A secam se kad se pojavio RTS Tracks koliko smo se svi zapalili

Mene iskreno jedino nervira sto bar ne izbace ove godine nekog decepticona , jes da ih je u crtacu bilo dosta manje od autobota [pogotovo u prve  sezone - ima previse automobila] al bas ga preterase , dobili smo samo Soundwavea sa kasetama za celu 2013/2014 

Eto tek posle 8 godina dobijamo insecticone u Chug liniji [jos nema pravog Shocka i Reflectora]

kaznove wrote:ma koji bre tripl pi.. materinu, izmislise da mu se vrata izvlace..ako je on triple-changer ja sam lizalica

Aerialbot wrote:Ja se ozbiljno razmisljam da uzmem MP5 da pojacam sikere i Souda

We're offered them every day and will never touch them, they're all KO's and others are overrun by workers in the factory. So don't try to claim ignorance that they're not what you know they are. Takara's own cost on these is over what you are paying. On every figure the factory workers overrun a bunch without ever paying for them, and sell them for whatever they can get for them. It started with Encore Fortress maximus and has persisted even with Takara repeatedly changing factories to try to stop it. It's also the thousands of these sold into the market (majority goes to China) illegally as one factor that's contributing to Takara's operating losses.

The biggest problem with the TF collecting market worldwide is it is infinitesimally small, so a 10% dip in unit sales can send takara well into an operating loss which is where they already sit currently. The math alone on most MP figures is terrible but on the other what if another 20% of people bought the legitimate product? The impact to the market would be huge. Not buying from TRU who just uses an already paid for mold and Takara gets next to nothing for, but from Takara and buying legitimate figures. It could mean you get 2x as many new figures a year as they could then afford to hire another designer or two and another couple of QC engineers, plus afford the large capital expenditure of more new molds. And then costs go down, both for manufacturing and retailing, if the market grew enough you could even pay less than today for legitimate MP figures.

On the other hand if you apply Kantian ethics you quickly realize where this is headed if you followed your ethical dilemma as stated, the MP series will be canceled, and then you'll be left with $20 2" Hasbro deluxes, 3rd party, and only MP repaints. So you get what you pay for, and cheap in the short run is always at a cost in the long run.

Sammael wrote:Jako zanimljiv komentar o KO MP figurama koji je dao Curt sa TFSource-a u privatnom razgovoru s nekim kolekcionarima i do kojeg sam došao nekim alternativnim kanalima:

We're offered them every day and will never touch them, they're all KO's and others are overrun by workers in the factory. So don't try to claim ignorance that they're not what you know they are. Takara's own cost on these is over what you are paying. On every figure the factory workers overrun a bunch without ever paying for them, and sell them for whatever they can get for them. It started with Encore Fortress maximus and has persisted even with Takara repeatedly changing factories to try to stop it. It's also the thousands of these sold into the market (majority goes to China) illegally as one factor that's contributing to Takara's operating losses.

The biggest problem with the TF collecting market worldwide is it is infinitesimally small, so a 10% dip in unit sales can send takara well into an operating loss which is where they already sit currently. The math alone on most MP figures is terrible but on the other what if another 20% of people bought the legitimate product? The impact to the market would be huge. Not buying from TRU who just uses an already paid for mold and Takara gets next to nothing for, but from Takara and buying legitimate figures. It could mean you get 2x as many new figures a year as they could then afford to hire another designer or two and another couple of QC engineers, plus afford the large capital expenditure of more new molds. And then costs go down, both for manufacturing and retailing, if the market grew enough you could even pay less than today for legitimate MP figures.

On the other hand if you apply Kantian ethics you quickly realize where this is headed if you followed your ethical dilemma as stated, the MP series will be canceled, and then you'll be left with $20 2" Hasbro deluxes, 3rd party, and only MP repaints. So you get what you pay for, and cheap in the short run is always at a cost in the long run.

(koga mrzi da čita: Takara već jako malo zarađuje na MPovima, svaki KO MP figure koji kupite dalje sjebava njihov već mali profit i lako može da dovede do propasti MP linije; pa vi kupujte onda KOve jer su jeftiniji, al će to sve TF kolekcionare skupo koštati u budućnosti)

Sammael wrote:Jako zanimljiv komentar o KO MP figurama koji je dao Curt sa TFSource-a u privatnom razgovoru s nekim kolekcionarima i do kojeg sam došao nekim alternativnim kanalima:

We're offered them every day and will never touch them, they're all KO's and others are overrun by workers in the factory. So don't try to claim ignorance that they're not what you know they are. Takara's own cost on these is over what you are paying. On every figure the factory workers overrun a bunch without ever paying for them, and sell them for whatever they can get for them. It started with Encore Fortress maximus and has persisted even with Takara repeatedly changing factories to try to stop it. It's also the thousands of these sold into the market (majority goes to China) illegally as one factor that's contributing to Takara's operating losses.

The biggest problem with the TF collecting market worldwide is it is infinitesimally small, so a 10% dip in unit sales can send takara well into an operating loss which is where they already sit currently. The math alone on most MP figures is terrible but on the other what if another 20% of people bought the legitimate product? The impact to the market would be huge. Not buying from TRU who just uses an already paid for mold and Takara gets next to nothing for, but from Takara and buying legitimate figures. It could mean you get 2x as many new figures a year as they could then afford to hire another designer or two and another couple of QC engineers, plus afford the large capital expenditure of more new molds. And then costs go down, both for manufacturing and retailing, if the market grew enough you could even pay less than today for legitimate MP figures.

On the other hand if you apply Kantian ethics you quickly realize where this is headed if you followed your ethical dilemma as stated, the MP series will be canceled, and then you'll be left with $20 2" Hasbro deluxes, 3rd party, and only MP repaints. So you get what you pay for, and cheap in the short run is always at a cost in the long run.

(koga mrzi da čita: Takara već jako malo zarađuje na MPovima, svaki KO MP figure koji kupite dalje sjebava njihov već mali profit i lako može da dovede do propasti MP linije; pa vi kupujte onda KOve jer su jeftiniji, al će to sve TF kolekcionare skupo koštati u budućnosti)

Sammael wrote:@Razor:

Jesi uopšte pročitao šta je napisao? Ne postoje KO proizvođači, svi MP KOovi se prave u istoj fabrici posle radnog vremena, cena koštanja je 0, dakle šta god da naplate je njihov profit (100%). A pri tome se sirovine direktno kradu od Takare, što Takari pravi operativne gubitke.

Pri tome ne znam odakle ti da je Takarina cena 70-80 USD kad su svi dosadašnji manji MPovi koštali 40-50 USD. Od toga Takarin profit ne može da bude više od 10 USD po figuri.

Klasična srpska (a i kineska) logika, nema veze što će to što radim dugoročno da me sjebe, važno da sad prođem jeftino.